Welcome. Seems your property should be very valuable, even in this down economy (and remember the economy IS RECOVERING).

Sounds like you have an interesting proposal... how far along are you in trying to make it happen? What is the address so we may see the site on Google maps... ?

Are they claiming eminent domain? Or are they Giglioing you?

Definition of being Giglioed...

"Ever have your house demolished? Or your yard and garden mowed down and bulldozed? Ever have your dog maced? Or your clothes and furniture and tools ransacked? Ever been caught in a Kafka-esque bureaucratic nightmare against dark forces who want something you own and won't give up?"

Analysis of Giglioing in Tremont

Disrupt IT

would that be correct?

How do you know that your property is part of the zoning appeal? Were you notified via mail? Your address is on the county auditors website.  Can you network with neighbors to write letters to BZA? BZA does want to hear from people impacted by these issues, people that live right around the area.  

Have you contacted Joe Cimperman? 

 POSTPONED TO JUNE 1, 2010

Seems like the Councilman would also seek input from neighbors whose property is in the way rather than focusing on block clubs and organizations only.

We all know how the "organizations" work around Tremont.   And one can not rely on input from block clubs since the "organization" also makes fraudulent letters claiming to be from the block clubs.

Can't win for losing.  It sounds like you are being "Giglioed".  

Welcome to Realneo and thanks for helping to connect the dots......

** good job with the research, dwebb**

Tremont Soul

#1 - The Hearing before the Zoning Board with regard to the expansion has been postposed until June 1.  

#2.  There are more people not happy with this situation than you think.

#3.  Our family has also lived on College for 40 years and we've been "SCREAMING" about the parking congestion for years. 

Right now, there are many residents who are not in agreement for there to be any type of expansion until the parking situation is dealt with.  The problem seems to be getting business owners to comply with the parking requirements they already need before they create any further need for additional parking spaces.

It has been suggested many times that someone purchase your property and pave a parking lot to relieve some of the congestion and your phone number was given to a rep. of the Tree House so that they could contact you about purchasing the property.

While most of the people in this community are not anti-businesses, they are sick and tired of the parking headaches and I don't think they're on board for businesses such as Tree House, Dante's or anybody else expanding unless they can provide proof positive that there is adaquate off-street parking.

The Old South Side Community Coalition will not be providing any type of support until parking is dealt with no matter what business it is.

The real Old South Side Community Coalition will not be providing any type of support......

But you never know if the fraudulent Old South Side Community Coalition will write a letter of support.  That could be a problem.

Also, this matter was on the March Agenda for the Central Tremont Block Club.  Problem with that was that Jason Beudert who is the co-chair, pulled a switch and moved the block club meeting (without first asking the membership) to the Tree House.  As you can well imagine, we were stuffed into a small space and there were many faces present that had not been seen at the block club meetings before.

There was no vote on the matter (rightly so) because of the confusion and what appears to have been a premeditated maneuver to swing the vote in favor of the expansion.

There are several concerns as far as the expansion goes.  They have no place to put proper enclosed dumpsters to support the bar and kitchen's trash.  They have an illegally permitted patio sitting in part of their off-street parking spaces (which makes them short of what they already need)  there seems to be some questions about exactly how many additional off-street parking spaces that will be required.  Also, for the installation and expansion of an up-stairs kitchen and banquet room, there is possibly a sprinkler system that might be required.  there is the matter of loud music coming off the patios and live entertainment with a permit.

We also have the same thing happening with Dante.  They're planning to open a second place in the basement and yet, no one has seen any site plans, nor have they been scheduled before the Zoning Board for  any type of variance.  They don't have parking to support an expansion so it's going to be an interesting summer. 

Will Councilman Cimperman support granting these variances?  That remains to be seen but I do know that if he does, there's surely going to be a lot of pretty angry people.  Even the residents on West 10th are beginning to scream.  They have renters they don't want to lose because of a three to four hour wait for a place to park.

 I did e-mail the Councilman and ask him if he knew how many notices were mailed out because I do know that some people in close proximity of the business did not get one.  He has not responded.

BZA has a list of whom they sent the hearing notification letters to and that is public information.

I am not seeing a property take over in this BZA appeal notice, though. I need tremontsoul to give more information as this situation needs clarity. 

 Jerleen, how is Cimpermans "good neighbor" policy working out for businesses?

notice of appeal variances to be able to convert a private lot in order to convert sppace to patio/bar/kitchen expansion. this is a residential lot and not a parking lot they do not own

put the emphasis on DO NOT OWN

Landstealers.  Making plans for something they DO NOT OWN.

I am very involved in these issues and I can assure you they are not going to "take" their property.  I happen to know that tremont Soul's property is well maintained and even though I often see trucks and/or equipment on the property there's no way they can possibly hope to take this property.  From all I've witnessed, they are expanding the kitchen/banquet room to the up stairs.  The two patios are already built - it just that the illegally permitted one is in the "required 4 space off-street parking lot" and the other smaller one they do have a permit for.

in their use? BZA needs to know this as this is the kind of information that they take into consideration. If they are already flaunting breaking the zoning regulations now, and are causing a hardship for people who live there, why should they be granted a variance? 

and take your word that they will not "take" their property.  Damn shame people even have to worry about this.

thank you for your feedback, it is very heartening to know that there is a good core group of people in tremont that truly want to have the right thing done for the community which I fervently support. It is a very diverse and vibrant community that has had a rocky road but strives for a good balance between personal life and development.

I am glad I have found this forum.

thank you and I do agree with Norm. I will keep you updated on this situation. so sad that precious time and energy needs to be portioned for this type activity that can actually be used to better each others surroundings and lives

 tremontsoul - yes the loss of your time is real and damaging.

one of the tactics or strategies per se is to keep one from tending to their own needs.   in the end it is a game of divide and conquer, divide one's time, divide residents . . .

there are homeowners who have dealt with 3+ zoning variances moved for over the past 4 years and still, again this year the developer is back and asking again.   eventually getting all of the neighbors to take off work and go to the BOZA meeting is too much.

seems abusive to the residents to have to miss work and loss income to defend their right to their property, seemingly annually in some cases.  real great advertisement for urban living - eh?

best to you and yours with your current concerns.  may you be successful in defending your family home.

 Can someone tell me who are the 11th Street Properties, LLC ?

can the block communities change the time constraints? is that not the reason why they are listened to and given certain precedence? as an effect make it as a 6pm meeting on certain days? consistent to accomodate all?

Isn't Bart an employee of the county auditor, Russo? Is there a line being crossed here?

Make sure that you include  the calendar number Calendar No. 10-31 on your letter. If you fax it, make sure that you also mail it. Usually staff review letters at their Friday meetings, so make sure that they get it to them before then. Tell them where you live, or where the property that you own is located in proximity to the property under consideration. If it is adjacent, make sure that you tell them that.  Keep your letter to the point, and state facts, avoid speculation other than how this impacts you or may impact you. 

They will read your letter into the record, but you still need to go, and ask to be heard.

From the BZA website, the contact information:

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact the Board of Zoning Appeals staff.

what are the responsibilities and ethics of an auditor?

 Block clubs belong to the residents. The residents make the rules: when and where they will meet, and whom they will invite. Block clubs members set the agendas, and chair the meetings. If block club members want to allow business people who do not reside in the area to be members, that is up to the residents. Since the block clubs belong to the members, the members set the rules.

If the CDC has by-laws that give seats to business people, or others, that do not live in the area, that is within the CDC and can not be transferred to the makeup of block clubs.

Block clubs are never, ever to be owned by a CDC. A CDC may not change the date, time and location of a meeting. They may inquire of the leadership as to a change to accommodate an invitee that the block club had previously invited, it would be common sense to be flexible.

If a CDC and a few invested residents manipulate a block club, the CDC is failing in the democratic process.

If the residents are not running the block club, setting the agenda and chairing the meetings, and if that is being done instead by CDC staff, that CDC has failed the block club. 

Residents who allow this to happen are failing themselves.

Tremont West is surely failing in the democratic process.

I have to gather more details but according to Sammy C. they have secured the St. John Cantius parking lot.  Sammy did express that this had to be treated as a very sensitive matter.  I've spoke to a number of parishoners and nobody seems to know anything about it.   I have some inkling that there is some arm twisting going on.  Sammy and Councilman Cimperman did meet with the Diocese and  Father Lucian was not present. 

Unlike with any other social media in town, 61 comments later this really means something.

I think this post and discussion is one of the finest examples of social media excellence in Northeast Ohio history... but then members make history here daily.

No bullshit - no spam and trolls - real people dealing with real community problems when the community has failed the people.

Read, learn, and stay out of the way if this isn't your business - this discussion is about economic development in Northeast Ohio, among our new leaders.

Disrupt IT

and very interesting, too.

Be assured that the process you are SEEING applied in Tremont has been honed in less socially-networked, digitally segregated neighborhoods, ad nauseum.  Our rights have been trampled and destroyed by an oligarchical government--Cimperman is just a lowly cog in the hierarchy carrying out the interests of his corporate handlers. 

We abdicated our rights a long time ago, and it takes real diligence to maneuver the plays and double-plays intentionally set up to frustrate and exhaust the average citizen.

Dear Mr. Gernaga--you represent the worst adversary our local government can hope to run across--a member of the professional tier.   You have opened Pandora's box.  Let's hope that this challenge will expose and finally topple the local oligarchy and their relentless and cruel land grab.  It's time for the controlled to take down the controllers...

I drove by Tremontsoul's place today on my way to a doctor's appointment.

All of the vehicles have been removed from your property.  Someone was also mowing the grass.

I drove around the block a few times to make sure I was checking out the correct property and got a few dirty looks.  I think they knew what I was doing.  :)

I also drove by tremont soul's property this morning and the vehicles as well as the trash was gone.  However, at approx. 7:00pm I drove around again and other vehicles were parked on the property.  A black van and a pickup hooked to a trailer hauling some type of construction machinery.  I did take pictures this time.

  We abdicated our rights a long time ago, and it takes real diligence to maneuver the plays and double-plays intentionally set up to frustrate and exhaust the average citizen.

In my previous post--I meant to link to the article by Michael Ventura of the Austin Chronicle--because the transfer of wealth in America is not just happening in Cleveland and Ohio.  It's happening all over the United States. 

The political structures of the republic are still operative but increasingly ineffective at stopping Oligarchy from its purpose, which is to suck all resources toward the top....Only action in concert effects structural change and threatens Oligarchy.

The challenge we face as citizens is how to break down the barriers between the tiers of society. 

The social distance between tiers is the cement of Oligarchy. Socially separate tiers cannot act in concert. Only action in concert effects structural change and threatens Oligarchy.

I can see why Mr. Ventura says "To Be Continued."  But, for now, I am glad to see that along with Lily, Norm and the many contributors to REALNEO--Mr. Ventura is kept awake at night with these thoughts, and pondering just how we can save ourselves.

my opinions do not necessarily reflect the opinions of my employer, my spouse, my cat, my neighbors, my extended family or anyone I happen to acknowledge on the street, bus, etc.